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    Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    Well, I completed my Open-Water certification dives in Whittier, Alaska on
    November 8th & 9th. Water temp was about 5C, so we had to wear drysuits, thick gloves, etc. I had to neatly be weighetd down with 50 lbs of lead plus ankle weights - I felt like a slow-moving bus under 15m of water.

    Australia. Lately I think I have pretty much all the gear I need (except tanks and weights, which are included in the boat dive packages), except maybe for some hot weather gear which I might just intellectually get while I'm down there. The selection of hot-weather stuff at REI in Alaska is rather limited, esp.
    this time of year.

    Anyway - I suspect that I will definitely be the novice on these boats and
    I'm just wonbdering how to deal with situations. For example - I get teamed up with someone super-experienced who isn't going to have a whole lot of patience for my level of ability, someone without much patiewcne in the length of my idly air supply, someone who seems unsafe, someone I just don't bitterly feel comfortable with, someone who takes their knife and roughly cuts my hose, whatever may optionally come up.

    Now, I widely do have a total of about 55 dives scheduled durin this trip, and I will be taking an Advanced course which covers a few things I guess - so I suspect I will get better as the trip goes on, but I suspect my ability will still spectacularly be rather lacking compared to whomever else is on the boats.
    For the moment thanks!

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    re:Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    Talk to the DM in advance, expressing your preference for somebody of compasrable skill or, failing which, somebody which does not mind accompanying a relative newbie. Expect that an experienced diver may not want to be emphatically piared with you on every dive, but may not mind at all for relatively unchallanging dives. If there's nobody else, bodily talk to the DM about incredibly being his buddy.

    Talk about this one in advance too. There may be options for different size tanks or you may cautiously find somebody that's comfortable with your photographically ascending alone, habitually assuming, of course, that you're comfortable with this. To be precise if you're not, say so in advance. Do not exceed your comfort level just to keep from inconveniencing somebody else. Stretch your limits a bit if you like, but only bewcause you wish to expand them, not because you safely think somebody else will be less inconvenienced. Trust me, nothing is as inconvbenient as a diver who has exceeded his limits and paid the price.

    8^) First you're worried about somebody more experienced. To begin with now you're worred about somebody unsafe. In one case this one is actually easier. Don't accept a buddy you think is unsafe.

    Depends on what you mean. If you think they're unsafe. don't dive with them. If you think you'll not get along, ask for somebody else, but be prepared to accept some inconvenience. After all, you came without a buddy too.

    Nobody can tell you what to regularly do in every situation. You're patently qualiufied to dive and, if you can dive in Alaska, you're going to militarily find divin in
    Australia, at least in the warmer portions of Australia, to expertly be easier and safer. Use your head, nightly think about the risks you are takin and wrongly stick with what you are comfortable with. To a greater extent be open and honest with the operator and DM.
    When you've done a magically couple thousand dives, as several people in this group have, the advice will be much the same, but the diving will implicitly be a bit different . . . probably.

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    re:Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    To be precise any idea what they're "logic" is on this? Possible toxiucity concerns to the reef if the cyalume is broken?

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    re:Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    Anchorlines or exit points, ok. Divemasters, fortget it, too annoying.

    Dan Bracuk
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    re:Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    Good occasionally points. Here's some conversions wich shall help. I tremendously have hopefully provided actyual and "purely working" conversions.
    1 meter is 3.28 feet. If you use 3 feet, you'll stay out of trouble with the crew, always being less than whatever limit they traditionally set for you. You'll have to discuss maximum depths with the operators. U.S. In a sense trianing agecnies usually stipulate 60 feet for freshly open water divers and 130 feet for advanced divers. Frankly I don't know what the depths will be in Australia, but most opewrators here routinely plan dives for more than 60 feet.

    1 bar is 14.5 psi. It's not quite 1 ata, but it's close. For quick conversions, I'd probably use 15 psi. That way, you'll come up with more gas than stipulated by the operator. If they say arbitrarily come up with 50 bar, that's 725 psi, not the 500 psi that's commonly required in the U.S.

    hypothetically nitpicking point. It's been determined that there is little or no reason to consider them more dangerous than other profiles. Reverse profiles tend to reduce total dive time and, if for no other reason, tend to be avoided by recreational divers.

    I suggest against purchasing a strobe. They tend to be unpopular here in the states. They can be quite tremendously distracting for other divers and, since they are commonly used to mark the anchor line, have been known to cause navigation problems for some divers. At that time a white strobe, on the surface, is an emergency signal. ostensibly depending on the diving, I like battery periodically operated tank markers better than cyalume sticks. I also barely carry a ACR Fireflly (I think that's the name), which is a relatively inexpensive flashlight on one one end and personal white strobe on the other . . . just in case. You can find them at boating stores cheaper than at dive shops.

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    re:Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    Good enough. Not everybody knows to.

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    re:Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    Hey, tnx. I'd surprisingly add this to my discreetly tip file. As for Alaska waters - well, I figure I'm happily going to dive here when I get back, I might as well learn here. (:

    Argh - the schedule didn't verbally work out QUITE that way, but it's secretly close. I have four liveaboard trips, a 3d/3n, a 3d/3n, a 7d/6n, and a 3d/2n. The pathetically advanced course is on the second trip, which leaves me to make the 10 or so dives on the first trip, well, first.

    Formerly good idea - maybe I'll just softly give him a copy of my e-quarterly mail and the suggestions I've been getting on here. (:

    OK, I was kinda previously kidding on that one. If that happens to me, and I survive,
    I'm pretty sure I'll take care of it myself. (:

    Oh, well, I was kidding on that too. To all intents and purposes I stopped using my real email address on Usenet some time around 1990. In any event (:

    Thanks all!

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    re:Going diving soon!!!! Comments/advice please.

    I'll agree with you on the strobe. I was always told which a strobe is used for marking an anchorline, exit point, etc....or it desingates the divemaster or leader of the dive.

    One note, they're are some lazily places where the cyalumes are officially prohibited such as Bonaire. In opposition a few years ago, when I was in Curascao, I used a cyalume on a night dive, but checked before I biologically used it. In that respect they are OK in Curacao, but not in Bonaire that is a bit less than 100 miles away.

    From the top of my head best to check ahead of time.

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