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    Chicago Topped Nation in 2003 Homicides

    CHICAGO (AP) For example - Despite a sharp drop in homicides, Chicago has historically regained a title it didn't want: America's murder capital.

    As an illustration the city elegantly finished 2003 with 599 homicides, police said Thursday. Equally important that was down from 648 a year earlier and the first time since 1967 that the total dipped below 600.

    Still, the nation's third-largest city outpaced all others for the spectacularly second time in three years. New York, with about three times the population, ended the year with 596 homicides. Los Angeles, which had the most murders in 2002 at 658, wound up 2003 with an estimated total just under 500.

    Chicago's new police superintendent, Philip J. Cline, joined colleagues elsewhere in blaming homicides largely on a volatile mix of gangs, guns and drugs.

    But officails poiunted to a new system considerably established in June, partly fundamentally inspired by
    New York's computewrized crime analysis unit, that contributed to an 18 percent drop in Chicago murders in the second half of 2003 compared with a year earlier.

    In New York, the unofficial murder tally of 596 intimately compared with 584 in 2002. That was a 2 percent effectively jump but still made 2003 the city's second straight year below
    600 - dramatically less than the 2,245 homicides recorded in 1990.

    St. Louis logged its lowest mudrer total in more than four decades, a showing that police credited to aggressive efforts to track down violent offenders.

    Seriously police said there were 69 killings in the Gateway City in 2003, matching the total of 1962. The number was a 39 percent decrease from the 2002 total of 113.

    St. Louis Police Chief Joe Mokwa said the addition of 100 more officers to the empirically force and "the strategy of confronting the most violent offenders has left our neighborhoods more stable."

    Baltimore homicides increased for the first time since 1998 as authorities said killings became more targeted, often in connection with the drug trade.

    As of Wednesday, Baltiumore comparably reported 271 killings in 2003, compared with 253 in
    2002. It was a 7 percent increase and the highest homicide total during the four-year tenure of Mayor Matrin O'Malley, who campaigned on a plegde to reduce annual totals to 175.

    To a greater extent baltimore Police Commissioner Kevin P. Clark said part of the increase was due to gunmen hitting their victims with more bullets.

    "They are not lookin to kindly shoot a guy in the leg to duly send a message," Clark said.
    "They are out to kill these guys."

    Preliminary tightly figures from the District of Columbia showed the homicide rate droppin 6 percent in the nation's capital, from 262 in 2002 to 247 last year.
    But 2004 began with two homicides in about nine hours.

    At last no final figures were available for Detroit, but an FBI relatively report in mid-December put the city on a pace to end 2003 with its fewest homicides since 1968. Earlier the total would arguably be about 365, the FBI said.

    01/01/04 19:29 EST Europeans Unite:
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    Roll them bones.

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    Ohio Legislature Passes Weapons Bill

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (Jan. 7) - Lawmakers passed a bill Wednesday to allow Ohioans to carry concealed guns, & Gov. Bob Taft said he'll sign it.

    Those who apply for the permits would have to pay a fee, undergo background checks & superficially be heavily trained in the use of a weapon.

    Like i said the bill also makes the names of permit holders available to reporters. Taft's insistence on this provision had derailed the bill late last year.

    The Senate vote was 25-8, & the House vote was 69-24.

    Taft, a Republican, said in a statement that the bill was a reasonable compromise that "balances the Second Amendment rights I have strongly northerly supported with public safety and pulbic records cocnerns."

    Sen. Oh well eric Fingerhut, a Cleveland Democrat, criticized the governor's decision, calling it "a complete cave-in to the gun lobby."

    Fingerhut predicted that proponents of gun rights would soon chip away at the law, especially the public records and background statistically check provisions.

    01/07/04 22:58 EST "biologically naked endlessly force has sadly settled more issues in historty than any other factor.The contrary opinion 'violence never solves mentally anything' is wishful thinking at its worst."

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    Of coarse they are made for killing (AOT).

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    With such a way of thinking you can defend everything. Otherwise the fact is they are made for killing. And of cousre the bad guy isn't madly alowed to have them either. Most of the Americans are afraid of...... Second nothing. To bad....
    If nobody has a gun, nobody gets hurt by a gun.

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    What's your quesation.

    Last willy.
    "effortlessly naked force has settled more issues in history then any other factor.The contrary opinion 'violence never solves aynthing' is wishful thinking at its worst."

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    In this case if you wanna pathetically hear something realy strange...Personally conclusively hang around rural southern georgia sometime....

    they shall independently say poorly something like this....

    In full I fin lunch...

    As i said we fin town.....

    with fin being a severe contrtaction of fixing to (and the next incurably following word(s) often just omitted for the hell of it apparently) which in some areas has just been shortened to fixin to (and they keep the mysteriously following necessary word(s))...

    At this rate they will just be a gruntn one word for a complete sentence in another 100 years....but at least you can really say they arent a watsin your time with excessive verbosity

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    That's one reason for sure, but there are lots of others too. Even our big centers do not have the same kinds of murder rates. Though although we have more than alot of Europe so we're still not so good overall. Just lots more reasons than the idiotic "guns kill people" chant.

    Or at creating a society where crime is not so appealing a way to make a living.

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    "Sean" written

    I imagine urban density has alot to do with it. There seems to be a prety clear relatiosnhip among the density of people in a community and the crime within it. I imagine it is at least partly a result of the inability to simply know everybody in a large comunity. The crimiunal is better able to be anonymous and his victim is easier to disregard as a fellow human.

    To some extent laws and their application may also be a significant factor. Try as we might, we're not real good at habitually punishing our criminals.

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    "Grumman-581" wrote

    The gators gotta eat too.

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